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Thanks for this Jacob but the World Junior Tourney has been cancelled unfortunately so we won't get to watch the Jets prospects in action.. lol
The Jets new years eve game against Calgary has been postponed, the next game is Sunday Jan.2nd at 3pm in Vegas, that is if it doesn't get postponed too. |
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I would say Cole Perfetti has a spot waiting for him - this year or at the very latest, next year. What, leading scorer in the tournament.
So Perfetti in - Copp, perhaps Stastny, out next season!
Didn't get a chance to see other prospects, but the Russian kid Chibrikov had a couple of assists, and I believe Torgersson one assist, so there's hope.
Hopefully the Jets are in playoff contention near the trade deadline. If so, that may make guys like Lucius and Samberg available to upgrade on the wing. Of course if Perfetti is deemed ready, then this won't come to pass. |
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Location: Winnipeg, MB Joined: 02.11.2015
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I would say Cole Perfetti has a spot waiting for him - this year or at the very latest, next year. What, leading scorer in the tournament.
So Perfetti in - Copp, perhaps Stastny, out next season!
Didn't get a chance to see other prospects, but the Russian kid Chibrikov had a couple of assists, and I believe Torgersson one assist, so there's hope.
Hopefully the Jets are in playoff contention near the trade deadline. If so, that may make guys like Lucius and Samberg available to upgrade on the wing. Of course if Perfetti is deemed ready, then this won't come to pass. - grahamzky
Perfetti might be in better game shape than most of the Jets at the moment, and certainly more than any of the Moose callups. I say throw him in there for a game or two while he's ready and playing a hot hand.
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Perfetti might be in better game shape than most of the Jets at the moment, and certainly more than any of the Moose callups. I say throw him in there for a game or two while he's ready and playing a hot hand. - jetsnation
Perfetti practising on top power play. Maybe it's "Perfetti time?" |
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Perfetti practising on top power play. Maybe it's "Perfetti time?" - grahamzky
Might as well. Get him in while he is jacked up and game ready. |
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Might as well. Get him in while he is jacked up and game ready. - Old Flopper
Ho hum - no Perfetti today apparently. Guess he's next year material!
Hate to say it, but if the Jets don't put a big winning streak together real soon - no playoffs for the Jets this season. Who are going to catch - Nashville? Don't want this to happen - but .......
If the Jets aren't in playoff contention, who do we trade at the deadline? Copp and maybe Schmidt? Stastny? Can see them re-signing Stastny as a "father figure" for Perfetti. (at reduced rate) |
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Location: Winnipeg, MB Joined: 02.11.2015
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Nice comeback from a 2-0 deficit. I don't like seeing Vegas get a point but at the end of the day its not really Vegas the Jets are chasing since they are already at the top of their division. Happy we got the much-needed 2 pts. Jets really need to go on some type of extended winning street to get back in the playoff hunt.
Gustaffson is injured so you might see Perfetti draw in next game.
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Nice comeback from a 2-0 deficit. I don't like seeing Vegas get a point but at the end of the day its not really Vegas the Jets are chasing since they are already at the top of their division. Happy we got the much-needed 2 pts. Jets really need to go on some type of extended winning street to get back in the playoff hunt.
Gustaffson is injured so you might see Perfetti draw in next game. - jetsnation
Yea, great to get the two points! But the Jets don't make it easy.
Thank gawd for Connor Hellebuyck and "sudden death" Kyle Connor! Certainly need all the points we can possibly get to reach the big dance.
May see "Goal" Perfetti - or more likely Svechnikov? |
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happy new year all, time for some Ross 2022 thoughts.
- time to sell high on Sheifele, he is lazy, not a good defensive player at all and is already at or just passing his peak. I to think its very important to have a 1-2 center punch but proper asset management tells me to trade him now. I'd love to get Lundell out of Florida or maybe Turcotte out of LA in a package. it would though be interesting to see a more vocal hard on players coach like Tochette yell at 55 and hold him more accountable for his deficiencies and see how he takes that and reacts to it.
-I hope Rikard Gronborg is our new coach this summer, i want an entire new staff with new ideas and strategies.
-the new staff will have to sit down with wheeler and explain a new role in the bottom 6 and get him to buy into that.
-lock up PLD is our top priority
-id love to sign Copp but i predict he signs with Detroit or Columbus this summer.
-we might be sellers this deadline, Copp, Stastny and I'd also look to move Dillan if there's a market. We need to make room for Samberg and Heinola.
-Heinola should be in the line up yesterday and he should be told, he will NOT be coming out, time to give him some confidence and consistency.
all the best in the new year.
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WJC thoughts....
Sweden used Torgesson on the PK.....I take that to mean that he is a trusted 2 way player.
Perfetti - maybe he should be nicknamed "Assist" Perfetti ? Very impressed with his pin point passing.
Lucius - did not see him play, missed that game.
Chiborov - was on one of the scoring lines and on the PP...that bodes well.
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happy new year all, time for some Ross 2022 thoughts.
- time to sell high on Sheifele, he is lazy, not a good defensive player at all and is already at or just passing his peak. I to think its very important to have a 1-2 center punch but proper asset management tells me to trade him now. I'd love to get Lundell out of Florida or maybe Turcotte out of LA in a package. it would though be interesting to see a more vocal hard on players coach like Tochette yell at 55 and hold him more accountable for his deficiencies and see how he takes that and reacts to it.
-I hope Rikard Gronborg is our new coach this summer, i want an entire new staff with new ideas and strategies.
-the new staff will have to sit down with wheeler and explain a new role in the bottom 6 and get him to buy into that.
-lock up PLD is our top priority
-id love to sign Copp but i predict he signs with Detroit or Columbus this summer.
-we might be sellers this deadline, Copp, Stastny and I'd also look to move Dillan if there's a market. We need to make room for Samberg and Heinola.
-Heinola should be in the line up yesterday and he should be told, he will NOT be coming out, time to give him some confidence and consistency.
all the best in the new year. - Ross77
Some interesting thoughts!
- Sell high on Scheifele? That is interesting thought - and certainly would be a blockbuster. If we do, this would signal a rebuild. Are we ready to go there?
- IF we did trade Scheif (don't think it will happen), Lundell would certainly be a great piece to add. But would like a little more. We definitely need a dynamic d-man for the PP.
- New coach? I wonder about Luke Richardson? And is Joel Quenneville banned for life?
- Lock up PLD? Yes, what $7.5 for 8 years?
- If Copp doesn't sign by deadline (I don't think he will), he needs to ge dealt. We can't lose a good piece for nothing. CBS good trading partner
- When Heinola is deemed ready, do we go with JoMo, Pionk and Heinola in the line-up, or is one moved? I think Schmidt is one that goes, not Dillon.
- Belated Happy New Year! Hopefully 2022 brings better things for our Jets - and life in general!
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WJC thoughts....
Sweden used Torgesson on the PK.....I take that to mean that he is a trusted 2 way player.
Perfetti - maybe he should be nicknamed "Assist" Perfetti ? Very impressed with his pin point passing.
Lucius - did not see him play, missed that game.
Chiborov - was on one of the scoring lines and on the PP...that bodes well. - bennythehat
Good info - I didn't see Lucius play either. Thought I would catch him later - but.....
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Some interesting thoughts!
- Sell high on Scheifele? That is interesting thought - and certainly would be a blockbuster. If we do, this would signal a rebuild. Are we ready to go there?
- IF we did trade Scheif (don't think it will happen), Lundell would certainly be a great piece to add. But would like a little more. We definitely need a dynamic d-man for the PP.
- New coach? I wonder about Luke Richardson? And is Joel Quenneville banned for life?
- Lock up PLD? Yes, what $7.5 for 8 years?
- If Copp doesn't sign by deadline (I don't think he will), he needs to ge dealt. We can't lose a good piece for nothing. CBS good trading partner
- When Heinola is deemed ready, do we go with JoMo, Pionk and Heinola in the line-up, or is one moved? I think Schmidt is one that goes, not Dillon.
- Belated Happy New Year! Hopefully 2022 brings better things for our Jets - and life in general! - grahamzky
Shief's a good player, at times very good. but i do think his value is higher than his worth. he is not a 200' center, he is actually very bad in our end. I dont think for a second trading him means a rebuild. i just think it would be a smart move. i dont buy into the first-second-third-fourth center. i prefer teams that have a more balanced attack from all lines. the last three winning cup teams all had a very balanced 4 line attack with not really that dynamic of a 1-2 center. edmonton has the best 1-2 center punch in the league and cant make it work. Any 55 trade though would have to at least bring back a potential young 1-2 center that is 19-22.
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Some interesting thoughts!
- Sell high on Scheifele? That is interesting thought - and certainly would be a blockbuster. If we do, this would signal a rebuild. Are we ready to go there?
- IF we did trade Scheif (don't think it will happen), Lundell would certainly be a great piece to add. But would like a little more. We definitely need a dynamic d-man for the PP
- New coach? I wonder about Luke Richardson? And is Joel Quenneville banned for life?
- Lock up PLD? Yes, what $7.5 for 8 years?
- If Copp doesn't sign by deadline (I don't think he will), he needs to ge dealt. We can't lose a good piece for nothing. CBS good trading partner
- When Heinola is deemed ready, do we go with JoMo, Pionk and Heinola in the line-up, or is one moved? I think Schmidt is one that goes, not Dillon.
- Belated Happy New Year! Hopefully 2022 brings better things for our Jets - and life in general! - grahamzky
Why would trading Scheifele signal a rebuild when Dubois is here as.a capable 1C and Perfetti hopefully ready to be 2C? Honestly to me it's a quick retool more then a rebuild if 55 was traded. |
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Shief's a good player, at times very good. but i do think his value is higher than his worth. he is not a 200' center, he is actually very bad in our end. I dont think for a second trading him means a rebuild. i just think it would be a smart move. i dont buy into the first-second-third-fourth center. i prefer teams that have a more balanced attack from all lines. the last three winning cup teams all had a very balanced 4 line attack with not really that dynamic of a 1-2 center. edmonton has the best 1-2 center punch in the league and cant make it work. Any 55 trade though would have to at least bring back a potential young 1-2 center that is 19-22. - Ross77
As we know, Scheif's a very good offensive player, but yes, I do think he is a liability defensively and I swear at him at least a couple of times every game " Get the ___ back!" But we need scoring and he is a proven scorer.
I wouldn't trade him at this point but if they do, like you say, Lundell or maybe Terry/Zegras? from Anaheim would be a good starting point.
I like a 1-2 centre punch and you like a 1-2-3-4 evenly matched centre position. Both teams made up like this have won in the past.
The big thing most SC winning teams have is a good/hot goalie and a top-notch d man. We have the goalie but lack the Letang, Carlson or Hedman type player. That should be our number one priority IMO. |
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Why would trading Scheifele signal a rebuild when Dubois is here as.a capable 1C and Perfetti hopefully ready to be 2C? Honestly to me it's a quick retool more then a rebuild if 55 was traded. - JetFuel
Yes, PLD could fill the number 1C I believe, as he seems to play better when he's the "go to guy."
But really you're going to throw Perfetti into the #2C position? And be a better team?
I believe Perfetti is going to be a great addition to the Jets, but really not sure he's ready for that step yet. If he is ready, then great!
Doesn't really natter what's it's called - I would call it the start of a rebuild. Besides Wheeler is almost 36, and Stastny is 36. Take away those three (Scheif, Wheeler, Stastby), and what to you call it then? Whatever, it would be a huge turnover at the very least. Maybe a retool?
Maybe who we trade Scheifele (which I don't think will happen) for would determine what we call it?
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Why would trading Scheifele signal a rebuild when Dubois is here as.a capable 1C and Perfetti hopefully ready to be 2C? Honestly to me it's a quick retool more then a rebuild if 55 was traded. - JetFuel
I would only trade Scheifele once he is in the last year of his contract. I would be looking to hold onto him as long as possible. I really do believe that he will turn it around with a different coaching staff. |
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I would only trade Scheifele once he is in the last year of his contract. I would be looking to hold onto him as long as possible. I really do believe that he will turn it around with a different coaching staff. - TheUltimateJet
I see the logic in this, but his value wont be as high then is all. i also think if the rumors' of him being the hardest player for management to deal with are true, then the time is now. |
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I see the logic in this, but his value wont be as high then is all. i also think if the rumors' of him being the hardest player for management to deal with are true, then the time is now. - Ross77
There is a trade price for every player in the league so it is possible to make a good trade for 55, however, it probably (depends on the return) is a step backwards for the team in the short term. Asset management is pointless if we are not interested in keeping the best players- not the most picks, prospects or depth players. 55 would be wanted any team in the league.
trading for lesser talent is not in the playbook of any team that wants to contend unless it is a rebuild or a retool with immediate nhl high end return. If we are out of the playoff race then we can look down the road a little further and consider more trade opportunities. |
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There is a trade price for every player in the league so it is possible to make a good trade for 55, however, it probably (depends on the return) is a step backwards for the team in the short term. Asset management is pointless if we are not interested in keeping the best players- not the most picks, prospects or depth players. 55 would be wanted any team in the league.
trading for lesser talent is not in the playbook of any team that wants to contend unless it is a rebuild or a retool with immediate nhl high end return. If we are out of the playoff race then we can look down the road a little further and consider more trade opportunities. - 2.0
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Yes, PLD could fill the number 1C I believe, as he seems to play better when he's the "go to guy."
But really you're going to throw Perfetti into the #2C position? And be a better team?
I believe Perfetti is going to be a great addition to the Jets, but really not sure he's ready for that step yet. If he is ready, then great!
Doesn't really natter what's it's called - I would call it the start of a rebuild. Besides Wheeler is almost 36, and Stastny is 36. Take away those three (Scheif, Wheeler, Stastby), and what to you call it then? Whatever, it would be a huge turnover at the very least. Maybe a retool?
Maybe who we trade Scheifele (which I don't think will happen) for would determine what we call it? - grahamzky
If Perfetti is the real deal then maybe there won't be much of a drop off, it'd be more about transitioning to a new core and getting some good assets for Scheifele that'll be part of the new core plus avoiding an ugly contract extension to Scheifele.
Also this team might miss the playoffs, do we really think running it back with basically the same team next year is going to get different results?
What do Stastny and Wheeler really matter at this point? They're older and depth pieces at this point.
It wouldn't be a rebuild, would be a retool, a rebuild is tearing it down, trading Scheifele isn't tearing it down. |
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As we know, Scheif's a very good offensive player, but yes, I do think he is a liability defensively and I swear at him at least a couple of times every game " Get the ___ back!" But we need scoring and he is a proven scorer.
I wouldn't trade him at this point but if they do, like you say, Lundell or maybe Terry/Zegras? from Anaheim would be a good starting point.
I like a 1-2 centre punch and you like a 1-2-3-4 evenly matched centre position. Both teams made up like this have won in the past.
The big thing most SC winning teams have is a good/hot goalie and a top-notch d man. We have the goalie but lack the Letang, Carlson or Hedman type player. That should be our number one priority IMO. - grahamzky
Would never get Zegras but maybe Florida would part with Lundell, he'd be a nice get in return for Scheifele. |
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I would only trade Scheifele once he is in the last year of his contract. I would be looking to hold onto him as long as possible. I really do believe that he will turn it around with a different coaching staff. - TheUltimateJet
I wouldn't wait that long, trade him earlier and get a better return. |
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Would never get Zegras but maybe Florida would part with Lundell, he'd be a nice get in return for Scheifele. - JetFuel
Yea kind of realized Zegras was out of bounds - but was kind of wondering if any Ducks fans read this site - and their reaction. Terry and Drysdale would be interesting - but also probably unavailable.
We were fortunate to get our young centre in PLD last season.
If we don't play any better than last night, it may be a short season. But we're not far back points wise, so one should be optimistic. I guess.
Sad when your fourth line is arguably your best line! Maybe they should put a couple of them out on the power play? |
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